Where Are The Women, All The Women?

A few weeks ago I posted this on the Whorephobia blog, talking briefly about the strange and disturbing story of how the SS, which had imprisoned sex workers as ‘asocials’ suddenly saw the benefit of paid sexual services and became pimp and trafficker. There was a response to this here. I set out below my comments on this response.

Firstly it may be the case that I didn’t cover all aspects of this story. That was never my intention. This was a short blog post making readers aware of a story which is not particularly well known. Above all I wrote specifically about the issue of forced prostitution and not about the issue of sexual violence against women more generally. I do not dispute that women were raped and sexually abused in a variety of contexts during the Second World War and not only by the Nazis. The behaviour of the Red Army during its advance on Berlin is rightly notorious and even allied troops were involved in incidents as they liberated Western Europe in the months following D Day. I did not talk about these as they were outside the scope of my post.

On a second point we need to disentangle this from the story of the Holocaust if by Holocaust we mean that the mass murder, some of it industrialised killing, of Jewish people that was once better known as the ‘Final Solution’ or ‘die Endlösung der Judenfrage in Europa.’ These days the word Holocaust is used rather loosely to talk about the story of the Nazi camps more generally but this is not helpful. Jewish people played no role in the story of the brothels either as forced prostitutes or as ‘clients’.

Pennington makes certain specific points to which I wish to respond. Pennington says that not only sex workers were sent to the brothels. I agree. This was what I said and indeed it is fundamental to my argument. I am unsure what point she is making by saying this.

Pennington begins her discussion of the issue of homosexuality by saying

“I have some personal reservations about the brothels being developed to combat homosexuality within the camp system since the men who were incarcerated for the crime of homosexuality were subjected to sexual violence and medical experimentation. “

In saying this she is confusing two distinct phenomena. Many gay men were imprisoned for their sexuality. They wore the pink triangle on their uniforms and were at the bottom of the camp hierarchy. As such they did the hardest and most unpleasant jobs and were subjected to additional torments and humiliations. Their presence in the camps was not a significant factor in Himmler’s decision to set up the brothels.

It is, I think, well known that incarcerated men who are not gay by orientation can and do engage in sexual acts with other men, consensual or otherwise, to relieve their frustration.  This happens today in prisons throughout the world even where officially forbidden. It happens in British prisons in 2013. It happened in the Nazi camps and Himmler was both aware and afraid of it. It is primarily for this reason that he decided to set up the brothels. Pennington concedes this two sentences after her initial remarks:

“The problem within the camps was sexual relationships between men who were not homosexuals and the rape of teenage boys by adult men. Both issues need far more research.”

She seems unaware of the inconsistency in her argument.

The issue of the brothels is, therefore, unconnected with the presence of gay men in the camps. Nonetheless gay men do have a role in the story. Pennington writes that “being a known homosexual was much more likely to result in death than a pass to the brothel.”

This is not entirely true. The commandant of Auschwitz Rudolf Höβ wrote his memoirs after the war while awaiting execution in Kraków. This is an interesting if depressing read, and much of it is the self justificatory ravings of a delusional psychopath who wants posterity to believe that he was really quite a nice man. It contains, however, a lot of interesting detail about his career. He makes reference to the use of the brothels to assess gay prisoners. Gay inmates were, on several occasions, taken to the brothels and their interactions with the women observed. If they proved capable of arousal and penetrative intercourse they might be deemed “cured” of their “perversion” and released.

Pennington takes issue with my description of the ‘clients’ as victims. For her they are perpetrators who freely chose to visit the brothels. I think this is a very harsh judgement and one that exposes the logical inconsistencies of those who, like her, argue from a radical feminist perspective. It is true that they had a choice and the women did not but what choice was it? Consider the context of camp life. These were men whose daily lives consisted of  following a harsh regime designed essentially to destroy their individuality. Life in the camp was not one where choice played a role. It is argued by radical feminists elsewhere that that where women make choices in contexts of restricted choice that these cannot be regarded as free choices. I am thinking particularly of the choice some women make to offer sexual services for money. It is inconsistent for people who argue this to see the choice made by a male camp inmate as an entirely free choice. I think we should all be very hesitant about judging these men. We have not had the misfortune to be sent to a concentration camp.

This line of argument leads to a double standard.  Men always make free choices. Women do not. Men are to blame. Women are not. This is something that infantilises women.

This brings me on to my final point. Pennington’s piece is entitled ‘Where are the Women?’ She accuses me of leaving out the experience of the women. This is not entirely true: the account of some men seeking a little solace rather than penetrative sex, for example, comes from the testimony of female survivors. In a short piece I did not say much about the direct experiences survivors of either gender. I do however have to take issue with this comment:

“This failure to acknowledge the very gendered nature of the Holocaust has led to women’s lives being written out of history”

Firstly, as I pointed out at the beginning of this piece, the issue of the brothels has, strictly speaking, nothing to do with the Holocaust. Secondly, the idea that the Holocaust was gendered is problematic. Is Pennington seriously arguing that Jewish women suffered more than Jewish men? What historical sources would provide evidence? What basis of measurement would she use? In any event who are we to pass judgements of this kind on the sufferings of the millions of victims of National Socialism? We can no more say that women suffered more than men than we can assert the contrary. I find this using of the Holocaust to make radical feminist debating points frankly distasteful.

Pennington’s piece is entitled ‘Where are the Women?’ I will throw the question back at her because she has not mentioned a group of women that I mentioned in my piece. The story of the women camp guards is one I may tell in a future post. It is fascinating, if dark, one. The motivations of these women were varied but, crucially, none of them were forced to work as camp guards. We know too that many women failed to make it through their basic training or were dismissed soon afterwards. The reason? They were too nice to the prisoners. Those that enjoyed careers distinguished themselves by both their brutality and by the relish with which they carried out their tasks. We know from survivor testimony that it was often the female guards that the prisoners most feared.

It is perhaps not a surprise that Pennington fails to mention them as they do not fit easily into the dualistic framework of men as perpetrators and women as victims that is the unspoken assumption underlying her analysis.

I believe that women can and do make free choices and that they bear full moral responsibility for those choices. To say otherwise is to deny women their full humanity, surely a paradoxical position for a feminist. The uncomfortable truth is that some women, like some men, will freely choose what is wrong, what is criminal, what is evil. The cause of equality cannot be advanced by pretending otherwise.

2 thoughts on “Where Are The Women, All The Women?

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  2. Here is a strange thing…one of my more profound life influences was reading “House of Dolls” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Dolls age 12 or 13 (it was in the top of my mother’s wardrobe with other books she confiscated from a consignment sent by a relative to a church auction, several more were by Harold Robbins! ).

    I remember, at the end, wondering how on earth the narrator could know all that had happened, even from a diary it would have required significant embellishment of the kind a brother would not provide. Perhaps the protagonist did not, in truth, walk into the high voltage wire, but, once having survived the camps, was also determined to survive the stigma?

    Certainly the whole book has the ring of truth and first hand experiences. I can still remember some of the characters.

    In Nazi Germany, EVERYONE was a victim…a friend in Aachen showed me the wedding photos as well as the obtituary of his Great Uncle in the SS…they were Germans in the Czech Sudentenland. They were barred from joining the Wehrmacht, so the Major helpfully bloc volunteered them for the SS. They watched fellow Germans (with whom they felt more kindred spirit than the Czechs) being taken away every day and never coming back for being Jews…they had no option on refusing to comply.

    His Great Uncle as well as his wife does not look old enough to marry…children in fancy dress with the lightening strikes on his shoulder…he would not even live long enough to look like a grown man.

    Homosexuality could be punishable by death for a soldier http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives refusing to visit a brothel could have unintended consequences far beyond courting the approval of radfems.

    Scratch the surface and “House of the Dolls” is a story of young women in an unimaginable nightmare, given a chance to survive and *WORKING.IT* (or in some cases, choosing not to). Without male sexuality that chance would never even have existed.

    Of course, that would be the first and last time in the entire history of the world *THAT* ever happened, wouldn’t it?

    (Life, and morality can be very, very complicated, the trouble come when people try to oversimplify it.)

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